Comments on: The Wild World of SIGMOD http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:17:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Transparent Text Symposium | The Noisy Channel http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/comment-page-1/#comment-4432 Transparent Text Symposium | The Noisy Channel Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:22:59 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2301#comment-4432 [...] of the unexpected benefits of accepting an invitation to speak at SIGMOD 2009 was an invitation from fellow participant Martin Wattenberg to attend the upcoming Transparent Text [...] [...] of the unexpected benefits of accepting an invitation to speak at SIGMOD 2009 was an invitation from fellow participant Martin Wattenberg to attend the upcoming Transparent Text [...]

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]]> By: Approximate string matching - 13801 http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 Approximate string matching - 13801 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:52:56 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2301#comment-3993 [...] The Wild World of SIGMOD [...] [...] The Wild World of SIGMOD [...]

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/comment-page-1/#comment-3986 Daniel Tunkelang Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:16:32 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2301#comment-3986 Indeed, some of the presentations--including by folks who have been involved with Vertica--made clear that column stores have been around for decades, dating back to Sybase IQ and even earlier. Indeed, some of the presentations–including by folks who have been involved with Vertica–made clear that column stores have been around for decades, dating back to Sybase IQ and even earlier.

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/comment-page-1/#comment-3985 Daniel Lemire Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:14:21 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2301#comment-3985 (Should read: I don't think that the conceptual gap...) (Should read: I don’t think that the conceptual gap…)

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/07/02/the-wild-world-of-sigmod/comment-page-1/#comment-3984 Daniel Lemire Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:13:06 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2301#comment-3984 I think that the column store thing is partly hype. We have had column-oriented indexes forever (bitmap indexes are not new! projection indexes are not exactly rocket science). That is not to say that Vertica can't kill Oracle. I'm sure it can. But I don't that the conceptual gap is what they make it out. Nevertheless, thinking about the data in a column-oriented way is much more interesting (to me, as a researcher). See for example (yes, it is a plug): Daniel Lemire, Owen Kaser, Kamel Aouiche, Sorting improves word-aligned bitmap indexes. Data & Knowledge Engineering (to appear). http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.3751 http://www.slideshare.net/lemire/all-about-bitmap-indexes-and-sorting-them I think that the column store thing is partly hype. We have had column-oriented indexes forever (bitmap indexes are not new! projection indexes are not exactly rocket science).

That is not to say that Vertica can’t kill Oracle. I’m sure it can. But I don’t that the conceptual gap is what they make it out.

Nevertheless, thinking about the data in a column-oriented way is much more interesting (to me, as a researcher).

See for example (yes, it is a plug):

Daniel Lemire, Owen Kaser, Kamel Aouiche, Sorting improves word-aligned bitmap indexes. Data & Knowledge Engineering (to appear).

http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.3751

http://www.slideshare.net/lemire/all-about-bitmap-indexes-and-sorting-them

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