Comments on: Those Who Give Twitter *Get* Twitter http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Deeho SEO http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3795 Deeho SEO Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:34:50 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3795 It has always made sense to me to follow the people you like reading and to steer clear of tweets or tweeters that you don't like. I suffer from twanxiety in this regard, initially feeling bad for not following my followers just because...... stick to your guns people and you will have a useful resource full of good info. Follow everyone and you will drown in a sea of mediocrity. It has always made sense to me to follow the people you like reading and to steer clear of tweets or tweeters that you don’t like. I suffer from twanxiety in this regard, initially feeling bad for not following my followers just because…… stick to your guns people and you will have a useful resource full of good info. Follow everyone and you will drown in a sea of mediocrity.

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3790 Daniel Tunkelang Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:31:23 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3790 To tweet a dead horse, take Twitter CEO <a href="http://twitter.com/ev" rel="nofollow">Ev Williams</a> as an example. Over 800K users follow him. He follows about 1K himself--which I already think is a stretch. Clearly he can't pay even a modicum attention to each of his followers. Should that offend them? Should he pretend to pay attention to them, just to make them feel better? I much prefer that he not do so; like him, I believe in people "simply curating their following list based on the information and people they want to tune in to." Better filtering tools would be nice. But let's forget that choosing whom to follow is itself a filtering tool--and one that offers the very kind of transparency that Twitter was designed to cultivate. To tweet a dead horse, take Twitter CEO Ev Williams as an example. Over 800K users follow him. He follows about 1K himself–which I already think is a stretch. Clearly he can’t pay even a modicum attention to each of his followers. Should that offend them? Should he pretend to pay attention to them, just to make them feel better? I much prefer that he not do so; like him, I believe in people “simply curating their following list based on the information and people they want to tune in to.”

Better filtering tools would be nice. But let’s forget that choosing whom to follow is itself a filtering tool–and one that offers the very kind of transparency that Twitter was designed to cultivate.

]]> By: Dorai Thodla http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3789 Dorai Thodla Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:34:36 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3789 Both the blog post and the discussions bring out interesting points. I do not follow every body who follows me but try many of them out for a while. Like Pavel suggests, I divide them into a few groups. There are interesting possibilities for getting metrics that reflect individual tastes. I know what I want, but have difficulty generalizing it. Both the blog post and the discussions bring out interesting points. I do not follow every body who follows me but try many of them out for a while. Like Pavel suggests, I divide them into a few groups. There are interesting possibilities for getting metrics that reflect individual tastes. I know what I want, but have difficulty generalizing it.

]]> By: Pavel Serdyukov http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3788 Pavel Serdyukov Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:20:04 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3788 This problem can be resolved with categorization of links. Like, in LiveJournal, one can have a lot of "friends", but then read only certain portions of them by just typing /friends/"groupname". That works pretty well, actually. And nobody feels rejected :) This problem can be resolved with categorization of links. Like, in LiveJournal, one can have a lot of “friends”, but then read only certain portions of them by just typing /friends/”groupname”. That works pretty well, actually. And nobody feels rejected :)

]]> By: Christopher http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3787 Christopher Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:35:58 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3787 Agreed, without validation it's just "hearsay". I can't make it high-priority but when I get a chance I'll identify all tweeple people & dev/customer specific tweeple people & then run it through the project & see what the real numbers are and report back. :) Agreed, without validation it’s just “hearsay”.

I can’t make it high-priority but when I get a chance I’ll identify all tweeple people & dev/customer specific tweeple people & then run it through the project & see what the real numbers are and report back. :)

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3786 Daniel Tunkelang Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:30:13 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3786 Henrik, I'm hesitant to tell people they're using Twitter wrong, since I'm a fan of live and let live. But I do criticize turning Twitter into nothing more than a follower hoarding game as devaluing the medium. Chris, I agree that it's odd if Twitter staff aren't following active Twitter developers--that's the one point of the three I can't discount. But I also didn't investigate its validity. Henrik, I’m hesitant to tell people they’re using Twitter wrong, since I’m a fan of live and let live. But I do criticize turning Twitter into nothing more than a follower hoarding game as devaluing the medium.

Chris, I agree that it’s odd if Twitter staff aren’t following active Twitter developers–that’s the one point of the three I can’t discount. But I also didn’t investigate its validity.

]]> By: Christopher http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3785 Christopher Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:09:50 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3785 We've discussed it a lot here and I've always agreed completely with your take on the "best" way to get value out of twitter. (It's one reason TunkRank, even in it's unmodified, simplified form is still superior to any other measures to date). For example: I follow 2 twitter people & I only have 1 twitter person following me (I'm pleased as punch who it is) and that fits completely with the best way to get value from my twitter stream. I mean most of what I have to say about twitter, HCIR, nlp, machine learning, etc. is irrelevant to 99% of the twitter folk (just as most of what 99% of what they have to say does not interest me) so I follow just the 2 people & I would not expect many to follow me. That said however if twitter folk who are in support, development, community engagement, etc. are not following active developers & top advocates it does make one wonder why the heck not. Beyond interacting with your friends, colleagues & concepts you like, following your developers & advocates (if you have either) just seems like not only a very good use of the twitter stream but good business sense... It might simply be that much of the twitter org is young and inexperienced and more interested in chatting within their own cliques than engaging more broadly but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We’ve discussed it a lot here and I’ve always agreed completely with your take on the “best” way to get value out of twitter. (It’s one reason TunkRank, even in it’s unmodified, simplified form is still superior to any other measures to date).

For example: I follow 2 twitter people & I only have 1 twitter person following me (I’m pleased as punch who it is) and that fits completely with the best way to get value from my twitter stream. I mean most of what I have to say about twitter, HCIR, nlp, machine learning, etc. is irrelevant to 99% of the twitter folk (just as most of what 99% of what they have to say does not interest me) so I follow just the 2 people & I would not expect many to follow me.

That said however if twitter folk who are in support, development, community engagement, etc. are not following active developers & top advocates it does make one wonder why the heck not.

Beyond interacting with your friends, colleagues & concepts you like, following your developers & advocates (if you have either) just seems like not only a very good use of the twitter stream but good business sense… It might simply be that much of the twitter org is young and inexperienced and more interested in chatting within their own cliques than engaging more broadly but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

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]]> By: Henrik http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/06/06/those-who-give-twitter-get-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-3783 Henrik Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:33:51 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=2187#comment-3783 I agree. The difference between using Twitter "right" and using Twitter "wrong" is if you are really reading what you find interesting or being social and following your followers. But saying that someone is using Twitter wrong would be an odd thing. I agree. The difference between using Twitter “right” and using Twitter “wrong” is if you are really reading what you find interesting or being social and following your followers.

But saying that someone is using Twitter wrong would be an odd thing.

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