Comments on: Everything is a Platform http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jeremy http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2078 jeremy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:35:51 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2078 Ah, but it doesn't matter what isn't broken for <i>them</i>. It matters what is or isn't broken, for the <i>user</i>. Because Google's stated goal is to focus on the user, first, and all else will follow. So is keeping their results lists closed really the best thing for the user? There's a certain conceptual disconnect there, of claiming that openness leads to more innovation, leads to the best experience for the users -- in all areas except their own area. Sure, they support open-source operating systems, because they don't make any money in that area. But why not open source search? Ah, but it doesn’t matter what isn’t broken for them. It matters what is or isn’t broken, for the user.

Because Google’s stated goal is to focus on the user, first, and all else will follow. So is keeping their results lists closed really the best thing for the user?

There’s a certain conceptual disconnect there, of claiming that openness leads to more innovation, leads to the best experience for the users — in all areas except their own area. Sure, they support open-source operating systems, because they don’t make any money in that area. But why not open source search?

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2075 Daniel Tunkelang Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:43:49 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2075 An interesting case, but somehow I doubt that anyone at Google will be persuaded to fix what isn't broken for them. They aren't exactly purists. An interesting case, but somehow I doubt that anyone at Google will be persuaded to fix what isn’t broken for them. They aren’t exactly purists.

]]> By: jeremy http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2074 jeremy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:42:13 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2074 Sorry, I think it's this podcast, instead. (It's been about 2 years since I heard it, so I can't remember the exact title): http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3365.html Sorry, I think it’s this podcast, instead. (It’s been about 2 years since I heard it, so I can’t remember the exact title):

http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3365.html

]]> By: jeremy http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2073 jeremy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:40:56 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2073 <i>As for Google choosing not to be a platform–why turn the web’s most popular application into a platform?</i> Ideological purity, maybe? Open source doesn't just mean "code". Eben Moglen has a great converation about this: http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail1712.html As for Google choosing not to be a platform–why turn the web’s most popular application into a platform?

Ideological purity, maybe? Open source doesn’t just mean “code”. Eben Moglen has a great converation about this: http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail1712.html

]]> By: Josh Young http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2070 Josh Young Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:10:38 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2070 Ahem, it does better when used correctly, focused on concepts rather than people: http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/index.php/concepts/enterprise+search Which is not to say that yours above isn't wildly more funny! Ahem, it does better when used correctly, focused on concepts rather than people:
http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/index.php/concepts/enterprise+search

Which is not to say that yours above isn’t wildly more funny!

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2069 Daniel Tunkelang Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:45:45 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2069 Yes, it's a nice idea, though it could use a little work, at least for those of us interested in <a href="http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/index.php/people/enterprise+search" rel="nofollow">enterprise search</a>. Yes, it’s a nice idea, though it could use a little work, at least for those of us interested in enterprise search.

]]> By: MarkH http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2068 MarkH Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:42:04 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2068 Interesting new wikipedia-based app http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/ Interesting new wikipedia-based app
http://correlator.sandbox.yahoo.net/

]]> By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2065 Daniel Tunkelang Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:39:37 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2065 Like Rob Gonzalez, my comrade-in-arms at Endeca, I'm cautiously optimistic about the semantic web but hardly sold on it as a panacea, particularly when people get into religious wars over standards. The problem strikes me as one not of technology but rather of incenting the necessary human work to create something that might be a public good but which no one seems willing to pay for. As for Google choosing not to be a platform--why turn the web's most popular application into a platform? It hardly surprises me that Yahoo! ("We're number two so we try harder") is leading the platform charge in web search. It remains to be seen if the market rewards them for this effort. Like Rob Gonzalez, my comrade-in-arms at Endeca, I’m cautiously optimistic about the semantic web but hardly sold on it as a panacea, particularly when people get into religious wars over standards. The problem strikes me as one not of technology but rather of incenting the necessary human work to create something that might be a public good but which no one seems willing to pay for.

As for Google choosing not to be a platform–why turn the web’s most popular application into a platform? It hardly surprises me that Yahoo! (“We’re number two so we try harder”) is leading the platform charge in web search. It remains to be seen if the market rewards them for this effort.

]]> By: Joel Amoussou http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Joel Amoussou Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:17:47 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2064 I've written about how news content can be linked to DBpedia, a community effort to extract structured information from Wikipedia at http://efasoft.blogspot.com/2008/12/from-web-20-to-semantic-web-bridging.html. Beyond APIs, I believe semantic web technologies (RDF, OWL, SPARQL, and Linked Data) will emerge to support a smarter web. The advantages over APIs are: standardized access and format, searchability, and semantic links. Joel Amoussou CEO, Efasoft http://efasoft.blogspot.com I’ve written about how news content can be linked to DBpedia, a community effort to extract structured information from Wikipedia at http://efasoft.blogspot.com/2008/12/from-web-20-to-semantic-web-bridging.html.

Beyond APIs, I believe semantic web technologies (RDF, OWL, SPARQL, and Linked Data) will emerge to support a smarter web. The advantages over APIs are: standardized access and format, searchability, and semantic links.

Joel Amoussou
CEO, Efasoft
http://efasoft.blogspot.com

]]> By: jeremy http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2063 jeremy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:12:37 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2063 So why isn't Google itself a platform? I mean, the SERPs? It would be amazing if they let people build off of that platform. But they don't. Everyone's trying to be a platform. But in this area, Google is not. What can we read into that? So why isn’t Google itself a platform? I mean, the SERPs? It would be amazing if they let people build off of that platform. But they don’t.

Everyone’s trying to be a platform. But in this area, Google is not. What can we read into that?

]]> By: Jonathan Mendez http://thenoisychannel.com/2009/02/23/everything-is-a-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-2062 Jonathan Mendez Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:06:27 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=1495#comment-2062 good thing the SOA fire burns brighter! good thing the SOA fire burns brighter!

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