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		<title>By: Nino Natividad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nino Natividad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOw.. this is a great post!   THanks for sharing.


nino natividad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOw.. this is a great post!   THanks for sharing.</p>
<p>nino natividad</p>
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		<title>By: Shooting Down Magpies &#124; The Noisy Channel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shooting Down Magpies &#124; The Noisy Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] readers know, I&#8217;m ambivalent about advertising in general, but very clear when it comes to shill marketing campaigns. So it&#8217;s with pleasure that I see Marshall Kirkpatrick at ReadWriteWeb [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] readers know, I&#8217;m ambivalent about advertising in general, but very clear when it comes to shill marketing campaigns. So it&#8217;s with pleasure that I see Marshall Kirkpatrick at ReadWriteWeb [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Can You Digg It? &#124; The Noisy Channel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can You Digg It? &#124; The Noisy Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hill is bragging that they are &#8220;&#8221;gaming Digg&#8221; by letting advertisers buy votes. Sound familiar? When will people figure out that anonymous social voting schemes that don&#8217;t offer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hill is bragging that they are &#8220;&#8221;gaming Digg&#8221; by letting advertisers buy votes. Sound familiar? When will people figure out that anonymous social voting schemes that don&#8217;t offer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Can&#8217;t Buy Me Friends &#124; The Noisy Channel</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/12/30/reductio-ad-advertorium/comment-page-1/#comment-1480</link>
		<dc:creator>Can&#8217;t Buy Me Friends &#124; The Noisy Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suppose it isn&#8217;t any crazier than selling your opinions. Oh wait, that was supposed to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] suppose it isn&#8217;t any crazier than selling your opinions. Oh wait, that was supposed to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. It&#039;s one thing for a writer to be biased by his or her own world view, but another entirely to put that world view up for sale. As you say, it&#039;s a matter of efficiency: trust is too binary for a reader to invest the effort in teasing out what part of a message is editorial and what part is advertising.

Or at least for an informed reader. I still marvel at the use of celebrity testimonials and endorsements in advertising. Perhaps we&#039;re not all as sophisticated as we think we are.

In any case, I do wonder what happens if people start using ad blockers en masse. Will we reconsider the antiquated notion of paying for content? Or will your modest proposal start looking like a plausible alternative?

As I blogged recently, selling out: it sells.

http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/12/28/selling-out-it-sells/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. It&#8217;s one thing for a writer to be biased by his or her own world view, but another entirely to put that world view up for sale. As you say, it&#8217;s a matter of efficiency: trust is too binary for a reader to invest the effort in teasing out what part of a message is editorial and what part is advertising.</p>
<p>Or at least for an informed reader. I still marvel at the use of celebrity testimonials and endorsements in advertising. Perhaps we&#8217;re not all as sophisticated as we think we are.</p>
<p>In any case, I do wonder what happens if people start using ad blockers en masse. Will we reconsider the antiquated notion of paying for content? Or will your modest proposal start looking like a plausible alternative?</p>
<p>As I blogged recently, selling out: it sells.</p>
<p><a href="http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/12/28/selling-out-it-sells/" rel="nofollow">http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/12/28/selling-out-it-sells/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kunz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Kunz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, and I didn&#039;t eat any Irish babies while working on the piece.

I do think the entire issue points to the immaturity of blogging as a communications medium. The reason that editorial and advertising are separated is not &quot;ethics&quot; ... but efficiency. When you lose your voice, people begin to stop listening. Bloggers may not see any risk in polluting their channel by writing puffery for $500 gift cards. I point them to telemarketing, another logical idea that eventually died as consumers got sick of unwanted messages arriving via phone over 6 p.m. dinner. Call it tragedy of the communications commons -- a little pollution here, a little more there, and soon there is no clear ground left for anyone.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, and I didn&#8217;t eat any Irish babies while working on the piece.</p>
<p>I do think the entire issue points to the immaturity of blogging as a communications medium. The reason that editorial and advertising are separated is not &#8220;ethics&#8221; &#8230; but efficiency. When you lose your voice, people begin to stop listening. Bloggers may not see any risk in polluting their channel by writing puffery for $500 gift cards. I point them to telemarketing, another logical idea that eventually died as consumers got sick of unwanted messages arriving via phone over 6 p.m. dinner. Call it tragedy of the communications commons &#8212; a little pollution here, a little more there, and soon there is no clear ground left for anyone.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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