Comments on: Rethinking the ESP Game http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/11/25/rethinking-the-esp-game/ Mon, 21 May 2012 05:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Daniel Tunkelang http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/11/25/rethinking-the-esp-game/comment-page-1/#comment-929 Daniel Tunkelang Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:31:46 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=861#comment-929 It's hard to resist a snarky comment on the safety of Silicon Valley implants. But what I meant by my comment is that the adversarial nature of the attention economy is, as Daniel Lemire pointed out, leading to real advancement in artificial intelligence. We are learning more--not just retrieving information more efficiently of effectively--and we are creating increasingly intelligent machines. I never thought I'd say this, but thanks be to spam! It’s hard to resist a snarky comment on the safety of Silicon Valley implants. But what I meant by my comment is that the adversarial nature of the attention economy is, as Daniel Lemire pointed out, leading to real advancement in artificial intelligence. We are learning more–not just retrieving information more efficiently of effectively–and we are creating increasingly intelligent machines. I never thought I’d say this, but thanks be to spam!

]]> By: Jason Adams http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/11/25/rethinking-the-esp-game/comment-page-1/#comment-928 Jason Adams Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:15:41 +0000 http://thenoisychannel.com/?p=861#comment-928 Encouraging diversity is the reason for the taboo words, of course, but adding a scoring model that reinforces it is a good idea. One of the goals of human computation was to create an effective arms race (before, the spammers were just invaders occupying our territory), and it's good to see that that is extending beyond the CAPTCHA. I was musing yesterday that someday (soon?) we'll have Google Implanted Search (beta) cybernetic implants in our brain. Your comment that human computation is making both humans and machines smarter puzzled me at first. On the one hand, perhaps you are referring to researchers getting smarter by finding new ways of improving AI thanks to human data. Or are you saying that the output of machines will lead to better information retrieval (or just software in general) that in turn will lead to increased efficiency in information acquisition for humans (or both)? I think in the second case, along with our Google implants, we may all one day be Renaissance men and women. Encouraging diversity is the reason for the taboo words, of course, but adding a scoring model that reinforces it is a good idea. One of the goals of human computation was to create an effective arms race (before, the spammers were just invaders occupying our territory), and it’s good to see that that is extending beyond the CAPTCHA.

I was musing yesterday that someday (soon?) we’ll have Google Implanted Search (beta) cybernetic implants in our brain. Your comment that human computation is making both humans and machines smarter puzzled me at first. On the one hand, perhaps you are referring to researchers getting smarter by finding new ways of improving AI thanks to human data. Or are you saying that the output of machines will lead to better information retrieval (or just software in general) that in turn will lead to increased efficiency in information acquisition for humans (or both)? I think in the second case, along with our Google implants, we may all one day be Renaissance men and women.

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