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	<title>Comments on: Happy Birthday, Dear Turing Machine</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the post, and I can relate to your perspective. But I respectfully disagree.

Consider the birth of this problem, Kurt Gödel&#039;s posthumously discovered 1956 letter to John von Neumann (http://weblog.fortnow.com/2006/04/kurt-gdel-1906-1978.html), in which Gödel broaches the question as to whether there are degrees on unsolvability.

The open P vs. NP question is as &quot;academic&quot; as the closed problem of the halting problem&#039;s undecidability. You can argue that a lot of undecidable problems are academic nonsense because they have practical answers, e.g., kill the program if it hangs for more than a minute. Indeed, that is what the mathematician suggested in the brunch conversation.

But I see these questions as fundamental questions about the nature of the universe. Maybe that makes me a naive academic. Certainly it makes me more of a computer scientist than a software engineer. And, to be clear, I&#039;m not the one putting up $1M for a proof. But you can be sure that, if I live to see the question resolved, I will celebrate that day as a milestone in the history of computer science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the post, and I can relate to your perspective. But I respectfully disagree.</p>
<p>Consider the birth of this problem, Kurt Gödel&#8217;s posthumously discovered 1956 letter to John von Neumann (<a href="http://weblog.fortnow.com/2006/04/kurt-gdel-1906-1978.html" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.fortnow.com/2006/04/kurt-gdel-1906-1978.html</a>), in which Gödel broaches the question as to whether there are degrees on unsolvability.</p>
<p>The open P vs. NP question is as &#8220;academic&#8221; as the closed problem of the halting problem&#8217;s undecidability. You can argue that a lot of undecidable problems are academic nonsense because they have practical answers, e.g., kill the program if it hangs for more than a minute. Indeed, that is what the mathematician suggested in the brunch conversation.</p>
<p>But I see these questions as fundamental questions about the nature of the universe. Maybe that makes me a naive academic. Certainly it makes me more of a computer scientist than a software engineer. And, to be clear, I&#8217;m not the one putting up $1M for a proof. But you can be sure that, if I live to see the question resolved, I will celebrate that day as a milestone in the history of computer science.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the P vs. NP question is academic nonsense.

See my post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2007/05/23/is-p-vs-np-a-practical-problem/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is P vs. NP a practical problem?&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the P vs. NP question is academic nonsense.</p>
<p>See my post <a href="http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2007/05/23/is-p-vs-np-a-practical-problem/" rel="nofollow">Is P vs. NP a practical problem?</a>.</p>
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