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	<title>Comments on: Enterprise Search on Wikipedia: An Entry in Need of Attention</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the support. Now that I&#039;m no longer in the enterprise search industry, I&#039;ve been quite aggressive in protecting the integrity of related Wikipedia entries. And I&#039;ve found that it&#039;s not hard to enforce evenhanded policies, such as restricting links to companies with Wikipedia entries -- or in some cases removing them entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for the support. Now that I&#8217;m no longer in the enterprise search industry, I&#8217;ve been quite aggressive in protecting the integrity of related Wikipedia entries. And I&#8217;ve found that it&#8217;s not hard to enforce evenhanded policies, such as restricting links to companies with Wikipedia entries &#8212; or in some cases removing them entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: JonRichfield</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-10354</link>
		<dc:creator>JonRichfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got involved in this discussion by way of a Wikipedia invitation. I am not sure what I can contribute materially, being largely otherwise occupied, both on Wikipedia and elsewhere. However, I am impressed by both the attitude and the analyses of those already involved, and if there is any sort of voting, you may be assured of my support, for what it is worth. I had not previously thought in terms of external pressures on interested parties contributing to Wikipedia, and I seriously sympathise. If Wikipedia supports separate vendor lists, then it seems to me altogether reasonable and constructive to create lists for just such functions. I certainly would strongly resist including the lists in the main articles. Similarly, I strongly support the separation of articles on such functions as searching and indexing. My main reservation is that some energetic and well-informed parties already seem to be doing this. Feel welcome to rattle my cage if I am missing something obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got involved in this discussion by way of a Wikipedia invitation. I am not sure what I can contribute materially, being largely otherwise occupied, both on Wikipedia and elsewhere. However, I am impressed by both the attitude and the analyses of those already involved, and if there is any sort of voting, you may be assured of my support, for what it is worth. I had not previously thought in terms of external pressures on interested parties contributing to Wikipedia, and I seriously sympathise. If Wikipedia supports separate vendor lists, then it seems to me altogether reasonable and constructive to create lists for just such functions. I certainly would strongly resist including the lists in the main articles. Similarly, I strongly support the separation of articles on such functions as searching and indexing. My main reservation is that some energetic and well-informed parties already seem to be doing this. Feel welcome to rattle my cage if I am missing something obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Enterprise Search on Wikipedia: A Work in Progress &#124; The Noisy Channel</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Enterprise Search on Wikipedia: A Work in Progress &#124; The Noisy Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I put out a call for help to clean up the Enterprise Search entry on Wikipedia. I decided to answer that call myself by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week, I put out a call for help to clean up the Enterprise Search entry on Wikipedia. I decided to answer that call myself by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did post a couple of sources at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Enterprise_search#Cleanup_of_red-linked_items:

1) Enterprise Search Sourcebook: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/infotoday/enterprisesearchsourcebook08/index.php

2) 20+ Differences Between Internet vs. Enterprise Search - And Why You Should Care: http://www.ideaeng.com/pub/entsrch/2008/number_02/article01.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did post a couple of sources at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Enterprise_search#Cleanup_of_red-linked_items" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Enterprise_search#Cleanup_of_red-linked_items</a>:</p>
<p>1) Enterprise Search Sourcebook: <a href="http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/infotoday/enterprisesearchsourcebook08/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/infotoday/enterprisesearchsourcebook08/index.php</a></p>
<p>2) 20+ Differences Between Internet vs. Enterprise Search &#8211; And Why You Should Care: <a href="http://www.ideaeng.com/pub/entsrch/2008/number_02/article01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ideaeng.com/pub/entsrch/2008/number_02/article01.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Searcher, but not of the enterprise type</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>Searcher, but not of the enterprise type</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post some sources for it here, or better yet to the talk page and it will be improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post some sources for it here, or better yet to the talk page and it will be improved.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
		<link>http://thenoisychannel.com/2008/09/20/enterprise-search-on-wikipedia-an-entry-in-need-of-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the challenges is a lack of consensus on what defines enterprise search--either as a set of information seeking problems or as a set of solutions for those problems. My preference for the Wikipedia entry would be to err on the side of inclusion and to try to enumerate both.

I also think the entry should shy away from being a how-to document. It could link to  notable how-to documents, but anything more is likely to reflect a strong vendor or analyst bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the challenges is a lack of consensus on what defines enterprise search&#8211;either as a set of information seeking problems or as a set of solutions for those problems. My preference for the Wikipedia entry would be to err on the side of inclusion and to try to enumerate both.</p>
<p>I also think the entry should shy away from being a how-to document. It could link to  notable how-to documents, but anything more is likely to reflect a strong vendor or analyst bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Ringdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas Ringdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great initative. Personally, I think the entire vendors list should have been removed from the article. At least move i to a separate entry.

Some points to include
-  description of what enterprise search is, and what it is not. 
 - what separates Enterprise search from desktop and web search.
 - problems that one meets on the process of aquiring an enterprise search solution
 - Some description of the various approches to enterpsie search such as complete out of the box solutions, enterprise search plattforms and stand alone components (aka do it yourself). Indexed security vs real time security check vs no security.
 - The role of federated search is not mentioned at all in the current entry.

There are a lot of good points in the Beyond Search blog from Steve Arnold that also should be included.

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great initative. Personally, I think the entire vendors list should have been removed from the article. At least move i to a separate entry.</p>
<p>Some points to include<br />
-  description of what enterprise search is, and what it is not.<br />
 &#8211; what separates Enterprise search from desktop and web search.<br />
 &#8211; problems that one meets on the process of aquiring an enterprise search solution<br />
 &#8211; Some description of the various approches to enterpsie search such as complete out of the box solutions, enterprise search plattforms and stand alone components (aka do it yourself). Indexed security vs real time security check vs no security.<br />
 &#8211; The role of federated search is not mentioned at all in the current entry.</p>
<p>There are a lot of good points in the Beyond Search blog from Steve Arnold that also should be included.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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